Your First Composition On PC / Mac Based DAW
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- KVRAF
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- 3276 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I know I could go back to the mid-1990's and try and dig out the old floppy disks of my Amiga Octamed compositions or find the CD where I recorded all the little trance tunes I made with Music 2000, but I don't have those available. What I do have though is music I created with Reason 1.xx back in 2001 (sometime around June). This was created on my old and long dustbin Athlon 750 PC I had.Still sounds good to me today I think
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11233573
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11233573
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- KVRAF
- 1839 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Unfortunately someone leaked most of my unfinished modules so there they are on the internet. f**k that guy.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z0763djc ... k5xjt&dl=0
This one I did in 26.4.1991, I was 15 years old. 4ch amiga mod, with space saving instruments (100KB). Kinda Dr.Awesome alike tune
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z0763djc ... k5xjt&dl=0
This one I did in 26.4.1991, I was 15 years old. 4ch amiga mod, with space saving instruments (100KB). Kinda Dr.Awesome alike tune
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https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3276 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Wow, that sounded fantastical , particularly for a 15-year-old. The first section reminded me of the music from the platform Amiga game Lionheart whilst the second part reminded me of the game Turrican (also my CB handle at the time whilst still in high school when I was 15/16), and the last part reminded me of R-Type. It sounds like you had a pretty good grasp of the hexadecimal commands. I know that when I started programming stuff it was all qwerty keyboard and it wasn't till much later on that I got to grips with the hexadecimal codes. I used many of the trackers that were out there but didn't create music tracks with them as such. Octamed Sound Studio (the full program given away on CU Amiga magazine was where I got really into it for a good few years until I got my Playstation 1 in 1997). It wasn't a long time after programming by hand that I used a MIDI keyboard for programming music and thus triggering sounds on my Yamaha PSR 330 which I still have working today). Going back to using samples again kinda felt like a downgrade in quality but I also felt I missed the creative carving one could do with samples in the editor. Did you program that entire piece from the qwerty keyboard or with an external keyboard?legendCNCD wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 1:22 pm Unfortunately someone leaked most of my unfinished modules so there they are on the internet. f**k that guy.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z0763djc ... k5xjt&dl=0
This one I did in 26.4.1991, I was 15 years old. 4ch amiga mod, with space saving instruments (100KB). Kinda Dr.Awesome alike tune
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- 16031 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
It's hard to be certain but I think it was this. I know I made the percussion loop in Fruityloops and exported it as audio into Orion, so it's definitely not something we'd done in hardware. This is a live version from 2004, a couple of years after I'd written it -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkcBQyv3mcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkcBQyv3mcU
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- KVRAF
- 2282 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
This bit of weirdness with Logic 5 Silver, IIRC--I've forgotten all their metals. All samples and Neon VST.
https://soundcloud.com/syntonica/ache?u ... al_sharing
https://soundcloud.com/syntonica/ache?u ... al_sharing
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better?
- KVRAF
- 15327 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
The contrast between topic title & first post could make one think it's only purpose is to let the OP show off, but I've chosen to ignore that.
My first own computer was a Sinclair ZX-81, which was totally mute. At school, however, there was a Tandy TRS-80, which could only BEEP. With some POKE commands you could change the frequency, and I discovered that by alternating the frequency quickly you could fake it played two tones simultaneously.
My first "real" PC was still of the beeping kind. With gwbasic I could do the same ole tricks. My dad was running around the house, trying to locate the phone he heard ringing (first type with electronic rings instead of physical bells) but it came from my room. I then knew I had found the right beep frequencies and timings to switch them.
My first real piece of music on PC was not my own composition. With the alternating frequency method I found I could let it squeek out the theme to Dr.Who. I recall it first loaded a picture of a fractal I prepared earlier (costed full days to compute)
Can I still show that to you and let you hear it? Probably not. I might have uploaded the compiled .exe (TurboPascal) to a BBS, and it must be on a 5.25" floppy somewhere. But it's likely lost forever and still exists in my own memory only.
My first own computer was a Sinclair ZX-81, which was totally mute. At school, however, there was a Tandy TRS-80, which could only BEEP. With some POKE commands you could change the frequency, and I discovered that by alternating the frequency quickly you could fake it played two tones simultaneously.
My first "real" PC was still of the beeping kind. With gwbasic I could do the same ole tricks. My dad was running around the house, trying to locate the phone he heard ringing (first type with electronic rings instead of physical bells) but it came from my room. I then knew I had found the right beep frequencies and timings to switch them.
My first real piece of music on PC was not my own composition. With the alternating frequency method I found I could let it squeek out the theme to Dr.Who. I recall it first loaded a picture of a fractal I prepared earlier (costed full days to compute)
Can I still show that to you and let you hear it? Probably not. I might have uploaded the compiled .exe (TurboPascal) to a BBS, and it must be on a 5.25" floppy somewhere. But it's likely lost forever and still exists in my own memory only.
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- KVRAF
- 1839 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Thanks Well I spent most of my time in front of Protracker back in those days so I knew it like the back of my hand or something like that. Started in 1987 using SoundFX, (Ultimate) SoundTracker etc. first.THE INTRANCER wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:57 pmWow, that sounded fantastical , particularly for a 15-year-old.legendCNCD wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 1:22 pm https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z0763djc ... k5xjt&dl=0
This one I did in 26.4.1991, I was 15 years old. 4ch amiga mod, with space saving instruments (100KB). Kinda Dr.Awesome alike tune
It sounds like you had a pretty good grasp of the hexadecimal commands. I know that when I started programming stuff it was all qwerty keyboard and it wasn't till much later on that I got to grips with the hexadecimal codes.
Did you program that entire piece from the qwerty keyboard or with an external keyboard?
Yes, from the keyboard, had no MIDI keyboard back then, would've cost a lot!
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/l0g18uwj ... tofgg&dl=0
Here's a bit more recent where Amiga is doing drums and a couple of bass sounds - not mixed. Then on top them are Diva & Omni. Original is amiga mod too.
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https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
- KVRAF
- 1839 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
The tune is ok! Its the mix thats a bit lacking - tilted to treble and some sounds are reason aliasing but hey, its still not a bad tune at all.THE INTRANCER wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 10:49 pm This was created on my old and long dustbin Athlon 750 PC I had.Still sounds good to me today I think
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11233573
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
- KVRAF
- 9588 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Exterminate………..Exterminate…BONES wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:34 pm It's hard to be certain but I think it was this. I know I made the percussion loop in Fruityloops and exported it as audio into Orion, so it's definitely not something we'd done in hardware. This is a live version from 2004, a couple of years after I'd written it -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkcBQyv3mcU
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Don't compose using a DAW, occasionally notation software. I record stuff I've written on the guitar or keyboard or in my head. For that, Dr. T's, then Pro 24 back in the 80's. At various times, Atari Real Time, Cakewalk, Cubase and Nuendo, Studio One for couple of years, Bitwig 1.x for a year, now Live. Moved from Windows to macOS several years ago.