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luCiPHer · Post by **luCiPHer** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:37 am

rune_lh wrote:
and dont you dis lamb
No dissin' intended
I like Lamb.

it's only cause I have such a wish to see Portishead continue.

It's almost impossible to find trip-hop of the good old Bristol sort anymore. Even Massive Attack seem to have left the building.

ok, now we are completely OT

have you ever heard of daughter darling? www.daughterdarling.com
not exactly bristol, but their debut album is really worth getting

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:41 am

don't worry about going OT - I just received a pm
from Bina in which she told me that it's o.k.

about the link to the trip-hop defintion you posted, LuCIPHer: after reading it I'd say this here IS
indeed trip-hop

Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:47 am

you're probably right - whoever mixed this song
is a stoopid amateur

...eh?

What are you on about?

PaintedBlue · Post by **PaintedBlue** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:51 am

Sehr toll... jetzt have ich einen Barenhunger...

Bis dann!

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:53 am

- I was just kidding - cheers, Rune - and your new plugin (Basslane) is fantastic - I just tried it, thank
you very much for it

luCiPHer · Post by **luCiPHer** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:53 am

rune_lh wrote:
you're probably right - whoever mixed this song
is a stoopid amateur
...eh? What are you on about?

a male person from germany, quite active on kvr, mixed that song, he's got a name starting with the letter j

but pssshht, that's exclusive german information

Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:53 am

ok, now we are completely OT
have you ever heard of daughter darling? www.daughterdarling.com
not exactly bristol, but their debut album is really worth getting

Nope, haven't heard of them.
But I'll have a listen.

Thanks for the tip

Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:59 am

Damn! I knew I shouldn't have walked into a german thread

... I am missing a lot between the lines here.

Lucipher

...okay I see.. phew! Why didn't someone PM me with that kind of info before

Thanks Jens...glad you like Basslane. Sooo emrm..about that mix of yours. Just mixing, or also composing?

Cheers,
Rune

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:01 am

yes, and also playing that shite guitar lick

luCiPHer · Post by **luCiPHer** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:04 am

rune_lh wrote: Thanks for the tip

you're welcome

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:05 am

jens wrote:yes, and also playing that shite guitar lick

[note to self]hide all guitars before the event[/note to self]

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:07 am

vurt wrote:
jens wrote:yes, and also playing that shite guitar lick

[note to self]hide all guitars before the event[/note to self]

- better it is

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:47 am

Muss es erstmal in deutsch sagen, geht ja doch einfacher:
Die Stimme ist zu nasal, und ich denke nicht, dass das eine Frage der Stimme per se ist, sondern eher eine Frage der Gesangstechnik. Für meinen Geschmack müsste das viel offener gesungen sein, so quäkt die Stimme leider rum, klingt nach Polypen, fast so wie Jürgen Drews in weiblich.
Ohja, ich seh's schon kommen, für diesen Kommentar bekomme ich Kloppe, aber ich kann halt nicht aus meiner Haut.
Aber wie gesagt, ich denke, mit ein wenig feilen an der Gesangstechnik kann man das auch anders (und meiner Meinung nach besser) hinbekommen.

Der Song an sich geht für mich in Ordnung, aber wie Putte schon sagte, da braucht's noch n bisschen was hinsichtlich der Soundsortierung.
Der Beat macht zu voll, vermutlich wegen der LoFi/Zerr-Geschichte, aber wohl auch wegen des extremen Stereospektrums. Dadurch gehen die Pads fast unter, der Bass auch. Teilweise mag das auch am MP3-File liegen, wieso das in 22kHz ist, verstehe ich eh nicht.
Ferner finde ich die Stimme etwas überkomprimiert, ein wenig lauter darf die schon werden, wenn lauter gesungen wird. Vielleicht auch dadurch bedingt, wird der Hall an den lauten Stellen einigermaßen fies. Die leisen Stellen klingen erheblich besser - und das gilt auch generell, so ungefähr bei 1:10 klingt's plötzlich alles ganz durchsichtig, wenn's dann wieder laut wird, kehrt der Matsch gleich mit zurück.

In aller Kürze:
- Gesang offener gestalten, sowohl vom singen wie auch vom Mix her, braucht mehr Raum.
- Weniger ist mehr, besonders hinsichtlich aller perkussiven Geschichten. Weniger Klanginformation und weniger Zerre oder wasauchimmer da benutzt wurde.

Ich weiß, das war kein "dude, that's some kickass tune" Kommentar - aber persönlich denke ich, dass die eh keine Sau braucht, gibt's hier viel zu oft.

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:51 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:Ich weiß, das war kein "dude, that's some kickass tune" Kommentar - aber persönlich denke ich, dass die eh keine Sau braucht, gibt's hier viel zu oft.

you're probably right, and personaly i'm a sort of king of "that's a nice track" comments, but i believe that this humble notes are still better than nothing. I don't pretend to always know what the others should have done with their track, so when i have no clue, i prefer to tell what i felt rather than just close the window... Of course, sometimes closing the window is the best option... when your feeling could hurt the nice fellow sharing his music.

Sasha, don't take it personaly, i just catch the ball.. actually, i often wonder how i could improve my comments and keep feeling bad having no clever ideas to share...

BTW, i listened to this track yesterday and was quite pleased with the result. There were some production problems, tho.

Weil ich Dich liebe - TripHop