How to use a hardware synth with Logic and bluetooth headphones?
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isuckatproducing isuckatproducing https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586683
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 27 Oct, 2022
Hi,
I'm using Bluetooth headphones (yes i know...) and I would like to use Behringer Neutron with Logic Pro on my Mac Mini M1.
As I understand USB will only send MIDI signal, so I would need an additional interface to make the MIDI (from piano roll) to play sound from the synth.
Currently my headphones are paired with my Mac/Logic, and surprisingly there isn't much latency.
So what would be my best options?
I have to use bluetooth due to needing ANC and EQ settings I'm used to.
I've seen people buying some BT dongles and plugging them to audio interface but it will probably worsen latency?
Also is there any cheap interface that would work here?
Thanks
I'm using Bluetooth headphones (yes i know...) and I would like to use Behringer Neutron with Logic Pro on my Mac Mini M1.
As I understand USB will only send MIDI signal, so I would need an additional interface to make the MIDI (from piano roll) to play sound from the synth.
Currently my headphones are paired with my Mac/Logic, and surprisingly there isn't much latency.
So what would be my best options?
I have to use bluetooth due to needing ANC and EQ settings I'm used to.
I've seen people buying some BT dongles and plugging them to audio interface but it will probably worsen latency?
Also is there any cheap interface that would work here?
Thanks
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isuckatproducing isuckatproducing https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586683
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 27 Oct, 2022
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- KVRian
- 809 posts since 25 Aug, 2019
What? I'm talking about how to connect neutron to mac.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:38 pmUsing a cable with my headphones disables ANC, that's the issue.
I would like to use Behringer Neutron with Logic Pro on my Mac Mini M1.
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isuckatproducing isuckatproducing https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586683
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 27 Oct, 2022
But it has jack output not input (my Mac) so I'm confused how would that work?roman.i wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:39 pmWhat? I'm talking about how to connect neutron to mac.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:38 pmUsing a cable with my headphones disables ANC, that's the issue.
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- KVRian
- 809 posts since 25 Aug, 2019
It usually has an output and input in one, like if you had a headphone with mic.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:41 pmBut it has jack output not input (my Mac) so I'm confused how would that work?roman.i wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:39 pmWhat? I'm talking about how to connect neutron to mac.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:38 pmUsing a cable with my headphones disables ANC, that's the issue.
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isuckatproducing isuckatproducing https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586683
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 27 Oct, 2022
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111894roman.i wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:42 pmIt usually has an output and input in one, like if you had a headphone with mic.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:41 pmBut it has jack output not input (my Mac) so I'm confused how would that work?roman.i wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:39 pmWhat? I'm talking about how to connect neutron to mac.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:38 pmUsing a cable with my headphones disables ANC, that's the issue.
It only says headphone jack.
According to ChatGPT:
The headphone jack on the M1 Mac Mini 2020 serves as an audio output port only. It does not support input functionalities like a microphone
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- addled muppet weed
- 107612 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
get a usb audio interface.
i use focusrite, but most of the available one will work fine, just search on any store, find one that suits your budget, then ask about a specific one, see if it has any major red flags
i use focusrite, but most of the available one will work fine, just search on any store, find one that suits your budget, then ask about a specific one, see if it has any major red flags
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isuckatproducing isuckatproducing https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586683
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 27 Oct, 2022
Yeah just want to make sure if it will work fine if I keep my headphones connected to my Mac via BT or if in this case I would have to connect them to interface? Sorry if silly question but never dealt with it.
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- addled muppet weed
- 107612 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
the blue tooth should work ok, but ive never used blue tooth headphones sorry, so cant be 100 certain.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:56 pmYeah just want to make sure if it will work fine if I keep my headphones connected to my Mac via BT or if in this case I would have to connect them to interface? Sorry if silly question but never dealt with it.
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- KVRian
- 809 posts since 25 Aug, 2019
I believe this is false.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:49 pmhttps://support.apple.com/en-us/111894roman.i wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:42 pmIt usually has an output and input in one, like if you had a headphone with mic.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:41 pmBut it has jack output not input (my Mac) so I'm confused how would that work?roman.i wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:39 pmWhat? I'm talking about how to connect neutron to mac.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:38 pmUsing a cable with my headphones disables ANC, that's the issue.
It only says headphone jack.
According to ChatGPT:The headphone jack on the M1 Mac Mini 2020 serves as an audio output port only. It does not support input functionalities like a microphone
It has always been a TRRS jack. Stereo output and Mono input.
Exactly what you need.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/25 ... ortBy=best
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/25 ... est&page=1
You can always opt in to an external audio interface, but it just another bulky device that you may not need.
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- KVRAF
- 3448 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
In Ableton you can set an interface as input and headphones as output. Assume Logic is the same. Just make sure you get an interface with enough inputs if you think you might want to work with more synths in the future.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:56 pmYeah just want to make sure if it will work fine if I keep my headphones connected to my Mac via BT or if in this case I would have to connect them to interface? Sorry if silly question but never dealt with it.
Do you really need ANC? Wired will give better quality and avoid adding more latency.
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isuckatproducing isuckatproducing https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586683
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 27 Oct, 2022
I'm in noisy env. so ANC is a must sadly. My Sennheisers M4 had massive latency but Sony XM4's don't. I'm a Sony hater overall but their ANC is unmatched imo. I've EQ'ed them a bit through iPhone and they sound ok now.db3 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:24 pmIn Ableton you can set an interface as input and headphones as output. Assume Logic is the same. Just make sure you get an interface with enough inputs if you think you might want to work with more synths in the future.isuckatproducing wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:56 pmYeah just want to make sure if it will work fine if I keep my headphones connected to my Mac via BT or if in this case I would have to connect them to interface? Sorry if silly question but never dealt with it.
Do you really need ANC? Wired will give better quality and avoid adding more latency.