Yeah, these are excellently crafted sounds, but f*cked-up by embedded chord progressions.
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- KVRAF
- 4068 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
Excellent crafted, premium sound quality are all very well, but there are other things like cringe and cliché. Those also have to be removed from the sound, although that's the problem when you're copying the style and sound of the best in their class, because it's copying and not innovative.
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- KVRian
- 1000 posts since 27 Nov, 2014
So is preview only available for presets in libraries produced after Factory 2?
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 12 May, 2023
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- KVRAF
- 3333 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Well, Fat of the Land / Smack my bitch up was essentially samples... Totally destroyed, shopped and f**ked up samples... And it is about one of the most ground breaking, genre defining, track of the 90s....egbert101 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 2:39 pm Excellent crafted, premium sound quality are all very well, but there are other things like cringe and cliché. Those also have to be removed from the sound, although that's the problem when you're copying the style and sound of the best in their class, because it's copying and not innovative.
So I wouldn't pay too much attention to copying sounds... As long as you make them yours... There is nothing wrong with any source in my view. Samples, presets or sound crafted by me from A to Z, layering of the 3 first categories, anything as long as I like the result and I have fun...
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- KVRAF
- 3333 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Damn !!! I knew it! And I forgot it!
Thanks for the reminder mate !!
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- KVRian
- 1000 posts since 27 Nov, 2014
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5579 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Well you're the boss. But I suspect if you drill down to the non-EDM audience buying the non-EDM-centric XPs, you might find a different story.
As I say, sure - have a handful. They're fun and make brilliant demos. But they are functionally near-useless for serious work, and the resources would be far better used elsewhere imo.
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- KVRian
- 1070 posts since 18 Dec, 2007
I kinda get your point that things are what you make them, but the prodigy purposely sourced and used used samples though. This is a synth. Imagine if I went out and bought a new guitar, hit a string and it played 16 bars of Smoke on the Water?Jac459 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:49 pmWell, Fat of the Land / Smack my bitch up was essentially samples... Totally destroyed, shopped and f**ked up samples... And it is about one of the most ground breaking, genre defining, track of the 90s....egbert101 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 2:39 pm Excellent crafted, premium sound quality are all very well, but there are other things like cringe and cliché. Those also have to be removed from the sound, although that's the problem when you're copying the style and sound of the best in their class, because it's copying and not innovative.
So I wouldn't pay too much attention to copying sounds... As long as you make them yours... There is nothing wrong with any source in my view. Samples, presets or sound crafted by me from A to Z, layering of the 3 first categories, anything as long as I like the result and I have fun...
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- KVRist
- 469 posts since 1 Dec, 2021
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- KVRist
- 162 posts since 22 May, 2023
I don't really see the problem. Atmospherica 2 has a total of 9 presets in the Sequences category, which are the push button songs in question, a small fraction of the content in the expansion. They're just inspiration for how you might use the style of sounds in the pack, that's all. Kind of like the YouTube demos, in preset form, which can be more useful. They can help you figure out what key you want to work in bc it's so easy to transpose the whole arrangement up and down, or you can use the individual building blocks, bc every one of those push button songs contains patches and arps and seqs and chord progressions that can easily be used outside of the push button song. I don't see the downside.
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- KVRist
- 469 posts since 1 Dec, 2021
9 Presets? At least half of them! Load any preset with (arp) name extension and try to play some minor/major chords on your MIDI keyboard. Good luck.hey212 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 8:13 pm I don't really see the problem. Atmospherica 2 has a total of 9 presets in the Sequences category, which are the push button songs in question, a small fraction of the content in the expansion. They're just inspiration for how you might use the style of sounds in the pack, that's all. Kind of like the YouTube demos, in preset form, which can be more useful. They can help you figure out what key you want to work in bc it's so easy to transpose the whole arrangement up and down, or you can use the individual building blocks, bc every one of those push button songs contains patches and arps and seqs and chord progressions that can easily be used outside of the push button song. I don't see the downside.
P.S Just to make it clear: the video below shows an example of the proper interaction between arps and chords being played (second half of the video shows the MIDI keyboard).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLuivdpTRD8
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- KVRist
- 162 posts since 22 May, 2023
Are we talking about the push button songs or are we talking about arps? The push button songs often have drums and several melodic layers, very different than a single arp. If you don't like the arps, they have an off button, then they're just normal playable patches.
