But synths are capable of so much more warmth
How many synths do you need?
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PebbleInAStream PebbleInAStream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=520135
- KVRist
- 239 posts since 6 Jul, 2021
To the OP, I would say yeah, start with just one. Vital is a good starting point.
quod tu es, ego fui, quod ego sum, tu eris
- KVRian
- 517 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
One, but where is the fun in that
Techno and other adjacent genres
Horse On The Third Floor : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyL394 ... n4RdaCYHjA
Horse On The Third Floor : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyL394 ... n4RdaCYHjA
- KVRAF
- 7165 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Like Pokemon:
You gotta have them all!
You gotta have them all!
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 204 posts since 26 Sep, 2023
Thanks, I'm slowly coming to the same conclusion overall.PebbleInAStream wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:14 pm To the OP, I would say yeah, start with just one. Vital is a good starting point.
I've downloaded a lot of free and really cheap synths but mostly I use them for preset surfing.
When I'm working on creating my own sounds I just use Vital.
Some space and fantasy ambient musings:
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
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PebbleInAStream PebbleInAStream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=520135
- KVRist
- 239 posts since 6 Jul, 2021
Just as friendly advice, don't take it the wrong way-- this is actually the one thing I would recommend not doing. Thankfully I didn't spend all that much on "cheap" VSTs that didn't get me the workflow or sound I wanted, but still that's $100 or so I wish I could've just spent on one really solid synthesizer that I would actually use and enjoy using (I think most of the really solid VST synths can be gotten for about $100-- Zebra Legacy is about $100, Rapid on sale is just under $100, Phase Plant, Diva, Dune, and other synths can be gotten for $100 second hand...). Anyways I hope that tip proves useful to you somehow, in some way.
quod tu es, ego fui, quod ego sum, tu eris
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 204 posts since 26 Sep, 2023
So a few honest questions:PebbleInAStream wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:17 pm Anyways I hope that tip proves useful to you somehow, in some way.
1) Why not get the synths just for the presets? I just got a few $10 AIR bundles which include Loom II and Hybrid 3. Loom was recommended in this thread as a "pick one additive" and Hybrid 3 just has so many cool presets.
2) I'm willing to spend money on music gear (I'm an old guitarist, just ask my wife about that). But I'm wondering, as a beginner, what I'm actually going to be getting if I spring for one of the good pay synths. Especially over Vital.
Some space and fantasy ambient musings:
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
- KVRAF
- 3694 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I agree with you, the only purchases I really regret in my GAS journey are the super discounted synths that don't deliver and just end up being bloatware for me.PebbleInAStream wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:17 pmJust as friendly advice, don't take it the wrong way-- this is actually the one thing I would recommend not doing. Thankfully I didn't spend all that much on "cheap" VSTs that didn't get me the workflow or sound I wanted, but still that's $100 or so I wish I could've just spent on one really solid synthesizer that I would actually use and enjoy using (I think most of the really solid VST synths can be gotten for about $100-- Zebra Legacy is about $100, Rapid on sale is just under $100, Phase Plant, Diva, Dune, and other synths can be gotten for $100 second hand...). Anyways I hope that tip proves useful to you somehow, in some way.
One big exception is DS Thorn. This synth is absolutely a premium synth in every way but sell for below 50usd.... A mystery....
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PebbleInAStream PebbleInAStream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=520135
- KVRist
- 239 posts since 6 Jul, 2021
Ah! As for the presets thing that's my mistake, I must have gotten confused between my conversations... Yeah of course! If you like working with presets then by all means, whatever synths has cool presets that you like/use could be a good purchase. What I meant was if you were trying to get more into patching/programming/whatever-you-want-to-call-it than using presets. But if that's not you, then my bad cus that advice is not really applicable is itNegoba wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:14 pmSo a few honest questions:PebbleInAStream wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:17 pm Anyways I hope that tip proves useful to you somehow, in some way.
1) Why not get the synths just for the presets? I just got a few $10 AIR bundles which include Loom II and Hybrid 3. Loom was recommended in this thread as a "pick one additive" and Hybrid 3 just has so many cool presets.
2) I'm willing to spend money on music gear (I'm an old guitarist, just ask my wife about that). But I'm wondering, as a beginner, what I'm actually going to be getting if I spring for one of the good pay synths. Especially over Vital.
As for what's better in the 'workhorse' synths... well it really depends which one most have more, or different capabilities than Vital due to their architecture. But Vital is a pretty solid software synth as far as such things go.
quod tu es, ego fui, quod ego sum, tu eris
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- KVRian
- 928 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
"Need?" Probably about two or three. I could get by fine with say Vital, Full Bucket 3200 for retro sounds, and pick one of Zebra, Hive, Dune, or Diva.
But as someone else said where's the fun in that I have had fun trying other synths and finding some great sounds or presets I wouldn't have otherwise had.
But as someone else said where's the fun in that I have had fun trying other synths and finding some great sounds or presets I wouldn't have otherwise had.
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PebbleInAStream PebbleInAStream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=520135
- KVRist
- 239 posts since 6 Jul, 2021
Thorn is one of those I got, but could never get along with it for whatever reason. I do however like using it and its spectral filters occasionally to make weird wavetables to import into other synths.
quod tu es, ego fui, quod ego sum, tu eris
- KVRAF
- 3694 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Tastes .PebbleInAStream wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:46 amThorn is one of those I got, but could never get along with it for whatever reason. I do however like using it and its spectral filters occasionally to make weird wavetables to import into other synths.
The UI could be better as it is a bit low res but to me the sound is very distinctive and it is very easy to make splendid bass with it.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 204 posts since 26 Sep, 2023
So I got sucked in to the Black Friday hype and got Hive 2. It will take me a long while to wrap my brain around that monster.
And then Loom II came in one of the $10 packs. Along with the freebies (Vital, TAL, Podolski), I think I should be set for awhile.
And I have a bunch of others for preset surfing. But I'm assuming most of my sound design will happen in Hive or Vital for awhile.
And then Loom II came in one of the $10 packs. Along with the freebies (Vital, TAL, Podolski), I think I should be set for awhile.
And I have a bunch of others for preset surfing. But I'm assuming most of my sound design will happen in Hive or Vital for awhile.
Some space and fantasy ambient musings:
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 204 posts since 26 Sep, 2023
Because I enjoy it and it’s fun to do new things?
Some space and fantasy ambient musings:
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw
https://soundcloud.com/negoba
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HP74XN ... Cwso38SWqw