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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 22 Oct, 2023
Ha, I'm usually not 10 feet from my amp when I am recording or writing! And I have some powerful computing. 2019 mac pro with Pro Tools HDX. If you have a track already produced with a bunch of VI's and want to add some overdubs, it gets tricky. I also use a console for monitoring directly. That's my experience. I can make it work and do every day but it is not inspiring. I have UAD octo as well but not their interfaces.
- KVRist
- 128 posts since 11 May, 2022
this sim is iconic, the fact that it is a stand out mix sim (meaning it will fit any in the box or live mix environment) is key, then you have the Marshall tremolo well captured amp, the only reason anyone would pick multiple sims is because of rare captures like this amp, I think it is Mike's amp, in west valley studios where just about any artists dreams of recording even today with computers in 2024.Anderton wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:34 am A
Out of the five amps, Amp #3 really does it for me with leads.
You’ve heard of mic cabinets...this is kind of like a cab cabinet.
Three pedals? Well, they’re three good pedals.
So, here’s the verdict. There’s a 10-day trial, and that’s enough to find out if Tonality does what you want. Just remember it’s dedicated to a specific type of sound, in a specific genre. I don’t mean that to sound limiting, because there is a lot of flexibility. Also remember that if you want to compress going in, or add chorus, or whatever, you’ll need to look elsewhere. (This is a situation where if you have Waves GTR but don’t use the amps, the Waves stomp effects can serve you well.)
It’s interesting how I went from not liking this sim to liking it, once I tamed the cabs so I felt they sounded creamier and not so “digital.” Of course, tone is subjective, and I wouldn’t assume everyone would agree—the non-EQed sound has its own character, which you might prefer. But it does point out just how subjective amp sims are, and perhaps more importantly, how many times an amp sim can be just a slight tweak away from giving you the sound you want.
I just cant stand that they changed the IR cab layout of valley studios to a speaker cone, they should keep the actual cab layouts cause it gives you a quick visual perception, they can add a pop up mic placement feature.
STL went from this
To this
While the real room looks like this
Made zero sense to me when they could of added a pop up mic feature like softube, the unique thing about this sim was the tone and cab section, you where able to see valley studio's cabs, and even realise that 10inch speakers may fit in the mix., some people stated to of contacted STL Tones about it but they refuse to listen to user requests, total knuckle heads.
Ok so why am I commenting on an old thread, simple, I recently tried tonnes and tonocracy, both capture style helix apps now, especially tonocracy which sounds better apart the effects, AND ITS FREE! so what im saying is that even after we reached the point of capturing and sharing amp profiles between each other natively with out a Kemper.. you still cant beat the Howard Benson Marshall tremolo, I have not even pushed the other models but just his alone is a rare gem...a great capture..im sure they can also improve it.
The softube are stock Marshalls, with cocked Over drives unlike the real SD1 etc etc,
The other captures out their dont behave like real amps as softube do but tonocracy adds additional els and features for all captures that do when you push the amps with od effects pedals and you can even tell between asymmetrical and symmetrical clipping diodes..
SO while...there are many Marshall sims on the market this sim still holds up against them all, at least one you realise what you need in a recording..guys who use real amps resorted to Howard and Mike's sim., lets not forget Mike's contribution here, both are geniuses.
and to be blunt, I compare all my sims to this sim now, there are a few Marshall gurus online sharing their experience with Marshalls in the box which was rare impossible in the past and still not a real amp today., one guy uses the JST DI plugin in and match eq to compare the hoard benson while the other is a die hard Marshall JMP2203 player and resorted to the Howard Benson in critical moments in the studio.., the list goes on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLi6opGz6c
And this guy too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TubhBtPTGwI
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- KVRAF
- 2809 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY
Yeah....too bad Tonacracy uses Pace iKok. That's a hard no for me. And for love of gawd....please don't go off topic and try and convince me why should embrace the iLok.
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 21 May, 2024 from Australia
great info, thanks.
- KVRist
- 188 posts since 12 Oct, 2020
Found out about Tonocracy thanks to a post here.
Really good rock sounds there.
Obviously functionality is very limited as it is a free plugin, so I will keep using my BIAS FX2 more which I love.
I used Amplitube back in the day but the UI is annoying, BIAS is much much nicer to use imo.
We are spoilt these days. Remember to spend more time playing than time looking at plugins!
Really good rock sounds there.
Obviously functionality is very limited as it is a free plugin, so I will keep using my BIAS FX2 more which I love.
I used Amplitube back in the day but the UI is annoying, BIAS is much much nicer to use imo.
We are spoilt these days. Remember to spend more time playing than time looking at plugins!
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- KVRAF
- 1713 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
I pulled out Nomad Factory Rock Amp Legends while laying down some scratch tracks. It doesnt really have the depth and articulation of say ..Kazrog. But for what I used it for .... plexi break up, it did fine. I ran the TSE r47 pedeal in front. Used RAL' delay. The amp used... .3% on a i5 dual core. Sweet.
We jumped the fence because it was a fence not be cause the grass was greener.
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- KVRist
- 369 posts since 10 Jul, 2024
Do you still use Kazrog? I quite liked his sims. Very ‘clean’ sounding. I’m still stuck on the demo version (time restricted) so cbf trying to use them.Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:27 pm I pulled out Nomad Factory Rock Amp Legends while laying down some scratch tracks. It doesnt really have the depth and articulation of say ..Kazrog. But for what I used it for .... plexi break up, it did fine. I ran the TSE r47 pedeal in front. Used RAL' delay. The amp used... .3% on a i5 dual core. Sweet.
I liked his AC30.
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- KVRAF
- 1713 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
Absolutley!Naillerz78 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:40 amDo you still use Kazrog? I quite liked his sims. Very ‘clean’ sounding. I’m still stuck on the demo version (time restricted) so cbf trying to use them.Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:27 pm I pulled out Nomad Factory Rock Amp Legends while laying down some scratch tracks. It doesnt really have the depth and articulation of say ..Kazrog. But for what I used it for .... plexi break up, it did fine. I ran the TSE r47 pedeal in front. Used RAL' delay. The amp used... .3% on a i5 dual core. Sweet.
I liked his AC30.
AC30
Plexi
And Boogie MC4P or something like that.
I use Redwire alnico blue for the AC30 and stock Recabinet 1960 Marshall for the other two.
I recently got the 1992 Amp Craft. I dont really do high gain material but the Rhythm channel with my volume rolled back give good results.
I would say Kazrog is my goto with Sknote Deluxe next then Kuassa Vermillion.
I liked Sgear stuff but I already have too much.
NAM is awesome but can be a cpu hog on my system. In a mix I dont think I could tell my favorite NAM Plexi from Kazrog Plexi but there is a tacktile difference when playing. NAM getting that final increment closer to the real thing.
We jumped the fence because it was a fence not be cause the grass was greener.
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- KVRist
- 369 posts since 10 Jul, 2024
Cool. I must give them another go. It was one of the best sims of the older bunch. Much better feel.Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:45 pm
Absolutely!
AC30
Plexi
And Boogie MC4P or something like that.
I use Redwire alnico blue for the AC30 and stock Recabinet 1960 Marshall for the other two.
I recently got the 1992 Amp Craft. I dont really do high gain material but the Rhythm channel with my volume rolled back give good results.
I would say Kazrog is my goto with Sknote Deluxe next then Kuassa Vermillion.
I liked Sgear stuff but I already have too much.
NAM is awesome but can be a cpu hog on my system. In a mix I dont think I could tell my favorite NAM Plexi from Kazrog Plexi but there is a tacktile difference when playing. NAM getting that final increment closer to the real thing.
just bought a budget laptop Acer aspire 1 W a celeron N4500 2 core processor and 8GB RAM.
Will that run NAM do you think
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- KVRAF
- 1713 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
@naillerz78
I would think so.
I would think so.
We jumped the fence because it was a fence not be cause the grass was greener.
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- KVRist
- 369 posts since 10 Jul, 2024
Been recording some tracks in Reaper and testing older amp sims again lately. Softtube Vintage Amp Room is definitely a cut above the others out of the box, definitely responds more like a real amp when increasing the gain / dirt
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 9 Jul, 2024
Do you still need to EQ a bunch? I’m loving the out of the box tone of the UAD Suhr SE100, but there are still a bunch of harsh frequencies in the high end area that I’m having to address with EQ. Maybe it’s my guitar (Gretsch Electromatic model)…
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- KVRist
- 369 posts since 10 Jul, 2024
I would say yes.
I’m flirting with buying a 10 band EQ pedal to put between guitar and interface atm to see if that helps ( not sure )
- KVRAF
- 6405 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I don't have a 10 band eq myself.
I do have a very cool analog filter I like a lot, which can be used in serial.
https://oldbloodnoise.com/pedals/p/float
also I can recommend the prism from jackson audio, I am a great fan of it...
I still need to get their bloom pedal one of these days...
https://jackson.audio/collections/pedals/products/prism
I do have a very cool analog filter I like a lot, which can be used in serial.
https://oldbloodnoise.com/pedals/p/float
also I can recommend the prism from jackson audio, I am a great fan of it...
I still need to get their bloom pedal one of these days...
https://jackson.audio/collections/pedals/products/prism