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Sequencer shmequencer - that new synth is uuuugly. I know they're going for "retro" but...ick. I much prefer the style they were going for with Grain and Europa. Especially Grain.

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That's my one petty nitpick that I'm allowing myself

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parma wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:32 pm Sequencer shmequencer - that new synth is uuuugly. I know they're going for "retro" but...ick. I much prefer the style they were going for with Grain and Europa. Especially Grain.
I normally love all their GUIs and this one is no exception - just the new delay is a tad on the fugly side for my taste.
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spacepluk wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 3:55 pm How can you all be so negative before you've even tried the thing! hahaha
Well, given their track record, I'm still on version 6.*, haven't been impressed for years.

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jens wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:44 pm
parma wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:32 pm Sequencer shmequencer - that new synth is uuuugly. I know they're going for "retro" but...ick. I much prefer the style they were going for with Grain and Europa. Especially Grain.
I normally love all their GUIs and this one is no exception - just the new delay is a tad on the fugly side for my taste.
:lol: and I prefer the look of the delay

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I’m assuming that with this new ‘sequencer’ loyal reason users can at least be only 10 years behind on what’s been available already for a decade ?

Do loops even start with the spacebar yet on that ancient DAW
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I expected Objekt to be main attraction for the upgrades' devices or better yet included with these "new" devices, to me that seemed more enticing than their current offering.

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Easy pass for RRP users. Hopefully the DAW people got something they wanted.
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I just took a look at their website, and, wow, I wasn't aware how much of the content in Reason is only available with the subscription version. For 500 €, I wouldn't have expected such a cut down version.

This really concerns me, also with Studio One. It seems like there is a trend towards offering the full blown version only to subscribers, even when the perpetual license costs 400 or 500 €, which is loads in my opinion. Shitty trend.

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Since the introduction and adoption of the subscription model for most DAWs, there has been a pullback on the update rate and quality. This is probably due to the prolonging and longevity of renewals for both subscriptions and the perpetual license.

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chk071 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:45 pm I just took a look at their website, and, wow, I wasn't aware how much of the content in Reason is only available with the subscription version. For 500 €, I wouldn't have expected such a cut down version.

This really concerns me, also with Studio One. It seems like there is a trend towards offering the full blown version only to subscribers, even when the perpetual license costs 400 or 500 €, which is loads in my opinion. Shitty trend.
To be fair, the majority of those devices were paid addons before the sub (and are still available this way). I think everything Friktion and earlier falls into this category. As for the sound content, I found it...underwhelming to say the least. I don't think permanent license holders are missing much there.
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Greenstorm33 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:19 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:45 pm I just took a look at their website, and, wow, I wasn't aware how much of the content in Reason is only available with the subscription version. For 500 €, I wouldn't have expected such a cut down version.

This really concerns me, also with Studio One. It seems like there is a trend towards offering the full blown version only to subscribers, even when the perpetual license costs 400 or 500 €, which is loads in my opinion. Shitty trend.
To be fair, the majority of those devices were paid addons before the sub (and are still available this way). I think everything Friktion and earlier falls into this category. As for the sound content, I found it...underwhelming to say the least. I don't think permanent license holders are missing much there.
Agreed. There is nothing in the Sub version that makes me want to jump. Guess im not much of a "loop and sample packs" guy
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I'm betting $100 R13 still installs most of its crap directly on the C drive regardless of where you tell it to install, aka 1998 tech level.

Any takers?
Have you tried Vital?

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Greenstorm33 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:19 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:45 pm I just took a look at their website, and, wow, I wasn't aware how much of the content in Reason is only available with the subscription version. For 500 €, I wouldn't have expected such a cut down version.

This really concerns me, also with Studio One. It seems like there is a trend towards offering the full blown version only to subscribers, even when the perpetual license costs 400 or 500 €, which is loads in my opinion. Shitty trend.
To be fair, the majority of those devices were paid addons before the sub (and are still available this way). I think everything Friktion and earlier falls into this category. As for the sound content, I found it...underwhelming to say the least. I don't think permanent license holders are missing much there.
Alright, thanks for the heads up. Still reminds me a bit of the Microsoft Office subscription though, which offers a lot more than the perpetual license, and makes it pretty clear which pricing model is the preferred one (for Microsoft).

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I like Reason and there alot of really good rack extensions, but having to manually mult cables is just so tiresome. Vcv handles this so much better.

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