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Google tells me it's F Natural.

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sjm wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:05 am I find it highly unlikely that the only music genre to ever feature a I III progression in A is jazz.
Notes like E# happen all the time in classical and it's not even limited to single flats or sharps. There are plenty of classical pieces where some notes might have double flats (bb) and in fact for double sharps there is even special notation (x is used instead of ##; no idea why double flats are still just notated bb though).

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osiris wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 8:36 pm Google tells me it's F Natural.
Don't let your wife see that search history...

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Google lies.

E♯ isn't the same as F♮ any more than A♯ is the same as B♭.
They're not even the same frequency in Pythagorean tuning.

...also, those F's aren't natural.
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osiris wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 8:36 pm Google tells me it's F Natural.
Bing gets it right.

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jamcat wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:25 am They're not even the same frequency in Pythagorean tuning.
There is actually a somewhat recent study (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-45812-z) suggesting that slightly imperfect ratios are preferable to pure Pythagorean tuning.

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jamcat wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:25 am Google lies.

E♯ isn't the same as F♮ any more than A♯ is the same as B♭.
They're not even the same frequency in Pythagorean tuning.

...also, those F's aren't natural.
on a piano keyboard, where is e#?

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vurt wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:34 pm on a piano keyboard, where is e#?
One key to the right of E. That's how you sharpen a note - you move 1 to the right.

Move to the left and it's a flat. Try this with F or C and blow your mind :shock:

So E# is the same key as G double flat.
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It's right there, it's the left side of the F key. the LEFT side.
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vurt wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:34 pm
jamcat wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:25 am Google lies.

E♯ isn't the same as F♮ any more than A♯ is the same as B♭.
They're not even the same frequency in Pythagorean tuning.

...also, those F's aren't natural.
on a piano keyboard, where is e#?
It's the white key to the left of the F## key.
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sjm wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:48 pm
vurt wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:34 pm on a piano keyboard, where is e#?
One key to the right of E. That's how you sharpen a note - you move 1 to the right.
exactly!

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vurt wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:34 pm
jamcat wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:25 am Google lies.

E♯ isn't the same as F♮ any more than A♯ is the same as B♭.
They're not even the same frequency in Pythagorean tuning.

...also, those F's aren't natural.
on a piano keyboard, where is e#?
That depends. Is it a well-tempered clavier, or meantone?

You could argue that none of the notes are really on a piano keyboard, except for C.
And even C hasn't actually been C since 1936.
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It's just a jump to the left....

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And then a step to the right…

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Put your hands on your hips...

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