Ive been eyeing a used cello bow for $35 at a nearby pawn shop. I prefer the more robust over-all 'build' of it, to that of a violin bow. Functionally, it boils down to the amount of drag/friction the bow has on the object you're pulling/pushing it on. So, assuming the hairs are in fairly decent shape and can be adjusted/replaced when needed, using rosin appropriately may be more of a factor than the "quality" of the bow. {2c}McLilith wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:57 pm I'm thinking I should scrounge through all the scrap bits of hardware I have laying around, and try building a noise box of my own...
However, I don't own a violin or cello bow, and those are commonly used with a noisebox. I have no idea how to pick out a suitable bow. Maybe it doesn't really matter which one I pick for this particular application? Since I'm not pairing this with a fine violin or cello, maybe I should just get the cheapest bow I can find, no matter what the type?
Does anyone have bow suggestions or tips?
2024: A Year in Gear (What You've Bought or Want to Buy in 2024)
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- KVRAF
- 11170 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
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- addled muppet weed
- 106129 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i use a 20 quid cello bow from amazon, previously a kids violin bow.
as you say, we're not playing expensive wooden instruments, would be silly to buy a 3 grand bow
as you say, we're not playing expensive wooden instruments, would be silly to buy a 3 grand bow
- Beware the Quoth
- 33286 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Yup. Cheapest violin bow on amazon uk right now is a fiver. You'll also want rosin.
I think I paid 10-12 quid altogether for the cello and violin bows I have, though that would have been a few years back.
I do have a special 'vintage' bow, as well, but its a pink, plastic Barbie one which Ive just found again so I need to work out if it'll rosin up suitably.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- addled muppet weed
- 106129 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 11170 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
- KVRAF
- 9874 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Didn't know about this. I'm likely buying Bento and Ongaku.Shabdahbriah wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:43 pm Waiting for this to land... (coming soon at giorgiosancristoforo.net)
https://youtu.be/XBz4SjjtxPI
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- KVRAF
- 11170 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Bento and Ongaku are good choices, whether on their own, or as sample fodder for your eurorack/effects processors. Using either as 'live-feed' can be pretty unpredictable though, even when somewhat familiar with their quirks. That isn't a bad thing. Just do consider using a limiter. They frequently evoke a Soma Labs Lyra 8 vibe for me.elxsound wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:40 pmDidn't know about this. I'm likely buying Bento and Ongaku.Shabdahbriah wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:43 pm Waiting for this to land... (coming soon at giorgiosancristoforo.net)
https://youtu.be/XBz4SjjtxPI
I think I started several years ago with the original Berna which is now at v3, and is modeled on early Radiophonic Workshop 'like' lab equipment simulations, and quickly picked-up Substantia, an electro-acustic physical modelling laboratory, and The Quadrivium. Fun stuff.
For the uninitiated:
https://youtu.be/DOtrANXvvU4
https://youtu.be/1h0gnOnWZY8
here: https://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/softwares/
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- KVRAF
- 10348 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I wasn’t planning to buy an MPC One and TR-8S today, but these deals were too good to pass up.
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Logic Pro | PolyBrute | MatrixBrute | MiniFreak | Prophet 6 | Trigon 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Polar TI2 | Blofeld | RYTMmk2 | Digitone | Syntakt | Digitakt | Integra-7 | TR-8S | MPC One | TD-3 MO
- Beware the Quoth
- 33286 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Me too, Ive pretty much got all of Giorgios stuff that's available for Windows, except for Quadrivium. Still waiting hopefully for Forbidden Voyage and Gleetchdrone ports.Shabdahbriah wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:43 pm Waiting for this to land... (coming soon at giorgiosancristoforo.net)
Im kinda surprised Full Blotter hasnt been mentioned somewhere here.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 11170 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
As do I, though I have passed on a couple I don't think I would use. Really interesting/unique stuff. I do wish he would have a "please notify me when a Windows port becomes available" button, though.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:47 amMe too, Ive pretty much got all of Giorgios stuff that's available for Windows[...]Shabdahbriah wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:43 pm Waiting for this to land... (coming soon at giorgiosancristoforo.net)
Indeed. Gleetchdrone is very very appealing.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:47 amStill waiting hopefully for Fantastic Voyage and Gleetchdrone ports.
I went with No Fi for what I thought I would have tried to use Fantastic Voyage for, which is an ITB (poormans) Boss RC-505 Loop Station. I definitely prefer the 505's aesthetic/layout for visual/tactile 'flow', but given how easily functions (knobs/buttons) can be 'mapped', it works well enough for my non-critical/non-performance oriented needs.
Me too! I was not even aware of this, until I went to get the site-link I posted above. Granular whore that I am, I downloaded the demo immediately.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:47 amIm kinda surprised Full Blotter hasnt been mentioned somewhere here.
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- KVRAF
- 7406 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I know those are some cool toys but this is the hardware thread...
My Algo arrived today and I played with it a couple of hours so far. It's got some weird aspects -- like everything being on a diagonal including the orientation of the pots, so a centered value isn't the usual "noon", and the lack of a master coarse pitch knob (there's +/-2 semitones fine tuning and an octave button, otherwise you're either going to have to transpose externally or tune all 4 operator knobs).
But OMG does it sound fantastic. Those parallel modulator and parallel carrier algorithms kick all of the ass, and even the "Oops, all carriers" algorithm sounds great with the warp/fold.
My Algo arrived today and I played with it a couple of hours so far. It's got some weird aspects -- like everything being on a diagonal including the orientation of the pots, so a centered value isn't the usual "noon", and the lack of a master coarse pitch knob (there's +/-2 semitones fine tuning and an octave button, otherwise you're either going to have to transpose externally or tune all 4 operator knobs).
But OMG does it sound fantastic. Those parallel modulator and parallel carrier algorithms kick all of the ass, and even the "Oops, all carriers" algorithm sounds great with the warp/fold.
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- KVRAF
- 11170 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
{cough} dang... b-b-but they makesses noiseses...
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- KVRAF
- 11170 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Well... many of us have learned that "good things come in threes". While some may desire triple Stregas, others have an affinity for complex oscillators:
https://youtu.be/RK4RSO_13Us
https://youtu.be/RK4RSO_13Us
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- addled muppet weed
- 106129 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
there's no law says i can't desire all the things!Shabdahbriah wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 4:10 pm Well... many of us have learned that "good things come in threes". While some may desire triple Stregas, others have an affinity for complex oscillators:
https://youtu.be/RK4RSO_13Us
that does sound lush.