But it's clear to see why I avoid them now to many.
What workhorse synth would you buy if you couldn't get Omnisphere?
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- KVRAF
- 5515 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Oh dear.
I'd quit digging now...
http://www.guyrowland.co.uk
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
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- KVRAF
- 2280 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
It was meant as mockingly humorous. I admit it--I accidently replied to a troll further above which started this whole ridiculous exchange. Apparently, to them, opinions bad, projection good. <hangs head in shame>
Anyway, any of the do-everything plugins are fine in place of Omni--Synthmaster, Falcon, Avenger, Rapid, and some of the newer kids on the block. I don't, however, include Serum, as that's a whole different beast altogether.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better?
- KVRAF
- 16571 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
- KVRist
- 393 posts since 23 Apr, 2006 from Berlin
Well Kontakt does wavetables now so it’s technically a synth?
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- KVRist
- 245 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
This thread was started on April 30th. Within hours after the OP asked about alternatives I gave them some alternativesBBFG# wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:47 pm
More importantly, why do you even open a thread which asks for alternatives knowing your intent is only to offer none? You have an agenda and the truth that reveals that is an uncomfortable one. Want to be on topic? Drop the shill and offer alternatives. Quit wasting everyone's time. Maybe spend more of that digging through Omni and get the percentage of its use up.
This thread is also interesting to me because I own pretty much every legitimate alternative that people are recommending
So I open it hoping we can have intelligent conversations about sample based alternatives to Omnisphere
Instead usually we get people like yourself going off topic because they lack the cognitive abilities to figure out how to use the browser or who feel the need to attack people who like Omnisphere and find it excellent
If you had actually bothered to read the OPs post you would have seen they actually love Omnisphere but it came down to affordability
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- KVRAF
- 7855 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Blather, cringe, not going to read any continuation of off topic cult indoctrination. Waste of time and I've better things to do.
You guys just continue to prove my point.
Suggestion:
https://smartrecovery.org/
You guys just continue to prove my point.
Suggestion:
https://smartrecovery.org/
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- KVRAF
- 5116 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35266 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Dawesome MYTH or maybe Tracktion Horizen ... or Melda MSoundFactory?
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- KVRist
- 445 posts since 11 Dec, 2020
Everytime people talk about sample. Falcon is way more capable.
Omnisphere is a gorgeous synth with hardware integration, many dsp waveforms and vcf
We should start with that.
- KVRAF
- 16571 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Falcon is complicated. TAL Sampler makes layering easy and that's the key. I'm surprised no one brought up JD-800 or XV-5080 for sample+synth sounds.
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- KVRist
- 245 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
And yet you came here again and went off topic and posted
If you think fans of Omnisphere are a cult and this is a waste of time for you why do you even bother to open this thread when you could easily ignore it
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- KVRist
- 245 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
I own Falcon also, the sample library on Falcon (and HALion7) blows away Falcon
The GUI of Falcon is pretty terrible, the engine can do a lot but the pathetic sample library renders that moot
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- KVRAF
- 5515 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
The most interesting thing about this thread is that there really isn't a serious contender for Omni at any price.
I remember many years ago people were touting Wusikstation as a cut-price alternative. Stupidly I bought it in a sale. What an idiot.
Falcon would seem best placed in some ways, but there's so much work to do. They have to incorporate a lot more interesting samples from elsewhere in their range, find a more musician-friendly UX, and get a really good tag browser.
If Omni is MacOS, Falcon is Linux.
Avenger is actually closer imo, though of course it's not like-for-like in terms of the UX. But I've always found it quite a nice musical interface, and it has an okay browser. It could really benefit from a more comprehensive factory library with some more interesting sources to throw into the terrific synthesis engines - there are a few expansions that go down this road, but I'd love to hear more esoteric acoustic instruments as starting points. It can do analog and digital very well.
Alchemy really is still the best suggestion overall if you are on Logic. I did demo it a few times back in the day, and I never quite gelled with it, but it sorta fits the bill best of any competitor. And hey it's free.
I remember many years ago people were touting Wusikstation as a cut-price alternative. Stupidly I bought it in a sale. What an idiot.
Falcon would seem best placed in some ways, but there's so much work to do. They have to incorporate a lot more interesting samples from elsewhere in their range, find a more musician-friendly UX, and get a really good tag browser.
If Omni is MacOS, Falcon is Linux.
Avenger is actually closer imo, though of course it's not like-for-like in terms of the UX. But I've always found it quite a nice musical interface, and it has an okay browser. It could really benefit from a more comprehensive factory library with some more interesting sources to throw into the terrific synthesis engines - there are a few expansions that go down this road, but I'd love to hear more esoteric acoustic instruments as starting points. It can do analog and digital very well.
Alchemy really is still the best suggestion overall if you are on Logic. I did demo it a few times back in the day, and I never quite gelled with it, but it sorta fits the bill best of any competitor. And hey it's free.
http://www.guyrowland.co.uk
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
W11, Ryzen 7900, 64gb RAM, RME Babyface, 1050ti, PT 2024 Ultimate, Cubase Pro 13
Macbook Air M2 OSX 10.15
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
W11, Ryzen 7900, 64gb RAM, RME Babyface, 1050ti, PT 2024 Ultimate, Cubase Pro 13
Macbook Air M2 OSX 10.15
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- KVRAF
- 11092 posts since 12 May, 2008
I'd say halion is probably the best contender. Even though I prefer omisphere myself, Halion is much more versatile and has lots of good sample based stuff available to it as well as a heck of a lot if synthesis options.noiseboyuk wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 9:22 pm The most interesting thing about this thread is that there really isn't a serious contender for Omni at any price.
I remember many years ago people were touting Wusikstation as a cut-price alternative. Stupidly I bought it in a sale. What an idiot.
Falcon would seem best placed in some ways, but there's so much work to do. They have to incorporate a lot more interesting samples from elsewhere in their range, find a more musician-friendly UX, and get a really good tag browser.
If Omni is MacOS, Falcon is Linux.
Avenger is actually closer imo, though of course it's not like-for-like in terms of the UX. But I've always found it quite a nice musical interface, and it has an okay browser. It could really benefit from a more comprehensive factory library with some more interesting sources to throw into the terrific synthesis engines - there are a few expansions that go down this road, but I'd love to hear more esoteric acoustic instruments as starting points. It can do analog and digital very well.
Alchemy really is still the best suggestion overall if you are on Logic. I did demo it a few times back in the day, and I never quite gelled with it, but it sorta fits the bill best of any competitor. And hey it's free.